015.1 Inner City Ministry, pt. 1 – Relevance

We don’t know what we’re talking about!

The news. Is it real???

We do know what we’re talking about! Ministering in the inner city

Song: John Mark McMillan – Between the Cracks http://www.johnmarkmcmillan.com/

Are you relevant? Does that matter? Apparently, everything must be relevant. There are many ideas and activities churches and ministries try. But what does God say about relevancy?

What is your motivation for ministry? Is it to be relevant? To do something for God? A compulsion for duty? Trends?

What God wants us to do has to come from our relationship with Him.

Compulsion can be a powerful motivator. But the important thing is obedience to God’s direction.

Does God have to be relevant?

Relevancy = culture dictates God and the Gospel.

For us, relevancy means simply being aware of your times and surroundings. We need to be aware of different things than people in wholly alien cultures and times. How did we get to here? What are the current influencing factors in society? What are the modern obstacles people face? What creative solutions are available to you?

Theme from scripture – There is more than one way to minister. The inner court and the outer court. Ministering in the spirit or the flesh

Sometimes ministering in the way God wants you to means your ministry is rejected by the people.

Song: “Tambourines” by Enter the Worship Circle. Used by permission. www.entertheworshipcircle.com

Understanding culture and how it got here is a process of understanding the lies it believes and the strongholds satan has.

This episode originally broadcast live on July 10, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:

www.discipledrivenchurch.org

www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com

www.sunministries.org

www.sunministries.blogspot.com

www.isaiah61initiative.org

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

014.1 The World, pt 1

What is the World? What does it mean to be separate from it?

Matt Papa – Where is the Difference

1 John 5:19 The whole world lies in the power of the evil one. One day this will change. This verse makes it very clear that there are two different kingdoms.

What are the clear teachings from scripture about the world?

1 Corinthains 2:6 it has wisdom

2 Corinthians 4:4 has its own God

Luke 16:8 has children

James 1:27 we can be stained by it. What does that look like? This verse alone shows the importance of understanding the “world”.

There are things in Scripture concerning grace and works which appear to contradict themselves. Maybe our understanding is small, and are hearts need motivation.

James 4:4 If you are friends with the world, you are an enemy of God. God desires the spirit He put in you. Pride is somehow related to being a friend of the world. Pride is related to Babel/Babylon.

Let’s get away from arguments about movies, tattoos, and piercings, and look at what our heart desires.

1 John 2:15 3 things that are in the world

  1. Lust of the flesh – our enticement to sin
  2. Lust of the eyes – lust of knowledge
  3. Boastful pride of life – trust in the stability of earthly things

We cannot trust in economies, governments, nor even the firmament itself. God shakes the ground and cracks mountains open.

1 John 3:1 The world cannot know God’s children. It cannot understand them, but they can understand it.

1 John 3:13 it can hate

1 John 3:17 it has goods – wealth or sustenance

Galatians 4:3 it can hold you in bondage through its things

Ephesians 2:2 it has its own course that we can walk

Ephesians 6 forces of darkness of this world that we battle

Colossians 2:20 it has rules and decrees

2 Timothy 4:10 it can be loved

Romans 12:2 it can be conformed to

1 Corinthians 1:21 its wisdom cannot lead to the knowledge of God

1 Corinthians 2:12 it has a spirit

John 17:21 It is the target of ministry

Matthew 13:22 it causes worry

“be in the world but not of the world” is not in the Bible. This does not make it necessarily not correct. But its simplicity and lack of context hinders our understanding of the world. It is a bad substitution for what actually is in the Bible.

Matthew 16:26 – the world can be exchanged for your soul

John 12:25 – hate our life in this world

Mark 4:19 Parable of the Sower, worries of the world, deceitfulness of riches, and desires for things. These things choke out fruitfulness of ministry. Jason thinks the “American dream” is a lie that eats people alive, because it’s dependent on an economic system that is opposed to God’s design.

Is your desire for fruitful service greater than your desire for the things of the world?

John 14:30 The ruler of the world is coming and has nothing in Jesus. If we are abiding in Christ, put on the mind of Christ, we will not be owned or deceived by the ruler of this world.

John 16 You will have tribulation in this world.

1 Corinthians 3:19 the wisdom of the world is foolishness before God

2 Corinthians 4:4 the god of this world blinds minds so they can’t see the glory of God

Galatians 4:3 we are in bondage to the elemental things of the world. What are those?

Galatians 6:14 the world is crucified to me and I to the world

Ephesians 2:2 the world’s course comes from the prince of the power of the air, and we formerly walked in it

Philippians 2:15 we should appear as lights in the world

2 Peter 1:4, 2:20 escaping the corruptions and defilements of the world

Song – Caedmon’s Call – This World

013.2 No Hippos!, pt 2

Continuing on with the 8 woes (Matthew 23)

Woe 4 – False and deceptive oaths. Every oath is binding, even if we excuse ourselves. Why blind guides instead of “scribes and pharisees, hypocrites”? Perhaps because they’re not “acting”, they are trying to work through self-made loopholes, and their blind in see its uselessness.

Woe 5 – Obsessed with trivialities and ignoring weightier matters. Covered all His bases by calling them hypocrites AND blind guides.

Woe 6 – Ignoring sin, pain, etc. on inside, and stressing visible activity

Woe 7 – Again emphasing outside appearance. With their activities, they are fooling themselves into thinking they’re alright.

Woe 8 – The profess to venerate the dead, but reject the living, proving that they are just like their fathers. In this, Jesus makes it clear that He will send prophets to these people that they will reject and kill. This goes against the false gospel of God taking all your problems away and giving your prosperity as a reward, and punishing you with calamity for your sin. The perfectly righteous, obedient prophets will be rejected and murdered.

Song: Shaun Groves – No Better, from his album “Third World Symphony”. Used by permission. https://shaungroves.com/

How can we avoid the hypocrisy of the pharisees?

  1. Allow the Spirit to operate. Especially hard when things don’t go as we plan or people don’t do what we want. Don’t have a heart of Jonah. Oppose the proud, give grace to the humble.
  2. Never use good stewardship as an excuse to place money above what God wants.
  3. Accept the fact that not everyone we preach to will follow God
  4. We must hold the release of people’s gifts above our own interests
  5. Be honest in everything we do
  6. Never let religious duties overcome the weightier matters of justice, mercy, and faith
  7. Get consecrated and separate your self from the world. Never assume someone is “spiritual” because of their position or office.
  8. Weigh messages of correction according to Scripture. Desire to apply truth to your life

Hyprocrisy leads us to walking in these woes, constructing a system that we have to uphold. Grace gets rid of all that.

Address your pile of crap and get rid of it.

Song: Beautiful Eulogy – Release me from this Snare, from their album “Instruments of Mercy”, available from www.humblebeast.com. Used by permission.

This episode originally broadcast live on June 26, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:

www.discipledrivenchurch.org

www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com

www.sunministries.org

www.sunministries.blogspot.com

www.isaiah61initiative.org

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

011.1 Sun Ministries, pt 4: Leadership Center and Narrow Gate

Blackhawks won. Boo.

Jason messed with brick.

Isaiah 61:1-3 This is the work of Christ

Those verses address our engagement with God. The following is what happens after that transformation.

The Leadership Center recruits and trains missionaries to minister in urban settings. This usually involves being undone and redone, and coming face to face with ignorances. Most of our days start off with “I don’t know what I’m doing”

Urban Missions Training participants work in our neighborhood, in our businesses, next to missionaries and Narrow Gate participants.

We are come next to serious problems, like family members of our employees being murdered. This is overwhelming.

Song: Heath McNease – Til We Have Faces https://heathmcnease.bandcamp.com/track/til-we-have-faces

Our neighborhood has about 2000 unemployed people (just under 50%). Jason talked to WashU students about economic development. This requires addressing pain, compassion, sacrifice, ministry.

This vision requires different expectations about life, different understanding and expression of the Gospel, different way of functioning as a business and non-profit.

Doctrine is very important, but it should affect your actions. Align your practice with your theology.

Separate ourselves from the patterns of the world and the patterns of our forefathers to seek God’s design.

Song: Shaun Groves – Jesus https://soundcloud.com/shaungroves/jesus?in=shaungroves/sets/twilight

Living in Shared Resources – Sun Ministries missionaries are unpaid. This is not a commune. The environment is shared, items are shared, we supply needs from the same pot of money. We get this vision from Acts 2, and from the teachings of Jesus and the Gospel of the Kingdom. This actually inspires a greater sense of concern for your responsibilities, space, shared items, etc.

Additional music: “In This World” by Enter the Worship Circle. Used by permission of Ben Pasley of Enter the Worship Circle. http://www.entertheworshipcircle.com

This episode originally broadcast live on June 5, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:

www.discipledrivenchurch.org

www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com

www.sunministries.org

www.sunministries.blogspot.com

www.isaiah61initiative.org

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

010.2 Sun Ministries, pt 3: Isaiah 61

Isaiah 61 – rebuilding ancient ruins

These devestations are in existance partly because of American public policy to concenrate poverty, largely poor black people.

If God built a new humanity which overcame divisions, should we not be continuing in that work?

Mark Sanford and Jason watched Selma. [https://youtu.be/x6t7vVTxaic] Large scale brutality. There were people fighting and dying for freedom they’re already supposed to have. We have all inherited this history of oppression and have a responsibility to undo it.

Today, the Gospel is largely self-centered. But the Gospel of the Kingdom is one of togetherness, which overcomes differences and knits a new humanity.

The state of most inner cities was primarily caused by racism.

Policing, politics, empowerment cannot wholly solve these problems and heal these wounds. The Gospel of the Kingdom goes beyond salvation, and creates a new humanity living a new life with a new set of values.

Are you walking in the privilege you’ve inherited?

Song: Derek Webb – I Repent

Whose Gospel did you believe?

Two gospels

  • John’s gospel addressed elemental things to prepare for what was coming. More personal, and this “personal savior”, sin-focused gospel became the driving force in modern American Christianity. John’s Gospel is not false, simply not full.
  • Jesus Gospel – The Gospel of the Kingdom. This is outwardly focused because what God is doing is so much bigger than you.

The Gospel does not mean all YOUR problems go away. Simply look at the people in the Bible. Our emphasis must be on the BRIDE of Christ. This is a much bigger picture, and cannot be self-focused.

We cannot force freedom of the Holy Spirit upon someone.

Jesus Gospel brings healing and reconciliation.

Jesus’ Gospel requires us to steward this world with humble service.

Sun Ministries Leadership Center

http://www.isaiah61initiative.org/Leadership.html

Not just a big big house with lots and lots of rooms.

The aspect of the ministry which relocates and trains missionaries. Facilitating a missionary movement to the inner cities of America, building faith communities from a position of reformations, utilizing the other tools in the ministry, the Opportunity Center and the Narrow Gate.

Isaiah 58 – The Gospel has been lost, and if you live the lifestyle of fasting, you will repair the path to the true Gospel.

Leadership Center also facilitates the Urban Missions Training http://www.isaiah61initiative.org/UrbanMissions.html

Those in the Urban Missions Training work in the ministry and engage in teaching, training, and testing.

If Jesus has not transformed you, it will be very hard to make disciples.

Pastoring the Community http://www.isaiah61initiative.org/Pastoring.html

How is satan holding this community down?

Engage in prayer, spiritual warfare, and utilizing resources to meet needs of the afflicted.

Utilizing existing services so we don’t have to recreate things and can build partnerships.

Being an ambassador of Christ.

Leadership Center also leads in the community to equip and organize.

Where you are not consecrated, you leave yourself at risk of being attacked and wounded by the enemy.

Caring for each other, our community, and doing it through service, and not for attention.

The Narrow Gate http://www.isaiah61initiative.org/NarrowGate.html

Taking people from oppressed/hopeless to homeownership, by walking with them through obstacles and need.

Helping people start businesses

This episode originally broadcast live on May 29, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:

www.discipledrivenchurch.org

www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com

www.sunministries.org

www.sunministries.blogspot.com

www.isiah61initiative.org

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

010.1 Sun Ministries, pt 2: Isaiah 58

Jason went to the African Arts Festival. Racism is dumb

song: TobyMac – Diverse City

Continuing the story of Sun Ministries

God called us through Isaiah 61 to initiate reformation of the church and rebuild the ancient ruins. God has a design for Church, and we should be doing that.

Every Christian should be seeking to do things the way God wants them done. What if every Christian lived they way Jesus taught us to live?

Doing things God’s way is incredibly inconvenient.

Many people don’t question church structure.

If you’ve been transformed by Jesus, you will live more like Him

Are you disconnected from your theology? Do your beliefs about who God is, does it change your behavior and values?

Jesus came to the oppressed, and undid the oppression – He made the way for freedom.

Are we afraid that we’re going to give something to someone who doesn’t deserve it?

Isaiah 58 – What does it mean to be afflicted? “afflicted” means oppressed or beaten down. Same word used when we’re told to humble ourselves, or when God humbles His people in the desert to reveal their hearts. It actually has 5 contexts in scripture

  • God humbling His people
  • People humbling themselves
  • People who are afflicted
  • rape
  • and false humility (Isaiah 58:3). The hypocrites are “afflicting” themselves. They are doing things that are essentially meaningless and ineffective, and trying to convince God they are afflicting themselves, humbling themselves. Ceasing from eating for a day is not the same as being raped.

Satisfy the desires of the afflicted – sometimes, those might not be the “holiest” of desires.

To humble ourselves is to afflict ourselves, as the people are afflicted. We do what Christ did. We lay aside our rights and become like those to whom we are sent. They are afflicted, so must we be. This is humbling ourselves. And it is how you set captives free.

The hypocrites of Isaiah 58 are setting up an if/then situation with God. This is a transactional relationship, and not honoring.

God sets up His own if/then’s for the people, revealing to them who really has power in the situation.

Isaiah 58 continues talking about the sabbath, which is NOT one day a week, because we are no longer under the law. But it is our new life in Christ, which is rest.

Rest is not inactivity, nor lack of diligence. It frees us from devising our own strength and wisdom and holding ourselves responsible for the results.

Our whole life should be an act of turning our feet from our pleasure.

Song: Amena Brown – John 1 https://noisetrade.com/amenabrown/breaking-old-rhythms

This episode originally broadcast live on May 29, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:

www.discipledrivenchurch.org

www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com

www.sunministries.org

www.sunministries.blogspot.com

www.isiah61initiative.org

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

004.1 God’s Church, pt 1: Man’s systems

Part 1 of our discussion of church definitions: man’s vs. God’s.

What is the American church doing?
We relay some statistics that point toward serious problems.
What has man added into the institutional church?
Are these activities biblical? Necessary? Harmful?
What are the effects of these choices?
Apostle-eez Throat Spray

Please stay tuned for parts 2 and 3 of this discussion.

This episode originally broadcast live on April 24, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO

For more info:
www.discipledrivenchurch.org
www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com
www.sunministries.org
www.sunministries.blogspot.com

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

Other music: “Rugged Old Hand” by Ben Pasley and “All I Need” by Enter the Worship Circle, both used by permission of Ben Pasley of Enter the Worship Circle www.entertheworshipcircle.com

003.2 The sacred Assembly, pt 2

Part 2 of our discussion of the Sacred Assembly.  Stay tuned for part 3.

Digging into 1 Corinthians 14
What does this instruction mean about gifting?
Do we need unbelievers in our worship gatherings?
Is this passage nonsense?
2 Corinthians 6:14-18 – Marriage? Business? Neither?
The Church – a set apart people
Peter was not seeker-sensitive
How is the assembly corrupted, and what are the effects? Ezra 10, Ezekiel 44

The live broadcast of this episode included the song “Return of the Revolution” by the O.C. Supertones. https://youtu.be/yudQlapUEjs

This episode originally aired on April 10, 2015

For more info:
www.discipledrivenchurch.org
www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com
www.sunministries.org
www.sunministries.blogspot.com

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

003.1 The Sacred Assembly, pt 1

What are we resisting?
What’s up with bricks?
We discuss the controversial topic of unbelievers in the worship service, delving into 1 Corinthians 14:22-25. What does this verse mean for the gift of tongues? What does it mean for our worship gatherings? What’s an apistos?
We discuss the idea of the sacred assembly – a gathering of believers, of followers of one Lord united in the spirit, functioning as a Body.

As with all our shows, this is part of a 2 hour live broadcast. Because of the dense nature of the topic, we are breaking this one up into 3 shorter podcasts.

This episode includes the song “The Gates” by Young Oceans. It is used by permission from Chris Bradstreet of Street Talk Media.
https://youngoceans.bandcamp.com/track/the-gates

Stay tuned for parts 2 and 3 to continue the discussion.

This show was orginally broadcast live on April 10, 2015 on KXEN 1010AM in St. Louis, MO.

For more info:
www.discipledrivenchurch.org
www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com
www.sunministries.org
www.sunministries.blogspot.com

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

Episode 1, Pt. 2: Introduction

We continue the discussion of the effects of the edict of Milan and the development of church systems
We ask, “Who makes a pastor?”
Mark has a cold.
WWJD? FROG!
We discuss Sun Ministries and the work we’re doing in St. Louis, focusing on our restaurant, Sun Cafe, and our woodshop that makes furniture out of recycled pallet wood.

The live broadcast of this episode included the songs “Lover” by Derek Webb http://noisetrade.com/derekwebb/lover-ep and “So you wanna go back to Egypt” by Keith Green. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foUH4No_SVU

For more info:
www.discipledrivenchurch.org
www.discipledrivenchurch.blogspot.com
www.sunministries.org
www.sunministries.blogspot.com

Theme music: “The Resistance” by Josh Garrels (www.joshgarrels.com) licensed by Marmoset Music (www.marmosetmusic.com)

Other music: “With your eyes” by Enter the Worship Circle (www.entertheworshipcircle.com). Used by permission of Ben Pasley.